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the same situation in benedict was elected pontiff in 2005 after the death of pope john paul the second. >> many people are inside and went to bed last night and the pope was still there later in the wake up this morning and realize the clock is ticking on them. he only has a couple of weeks left on the job. joining me is sister maggie, you attend mass here. your thoughts? this is not happen in 600 years. you wake up this morning and you hear he is stepping down, where you thinking? >> i was shocked, i have to admit. this was the first time this is happened in over 600 years like you said. i also admire the man because he is being honest with himself and with the world. he has tremendous responsibility and realizes that physically he can no longer do it. someone else can do it in his place. >> do you think the job calls for a younger man out? he is saying this is a new world we live and a technologically advanced age. >> not necessarily aids. if a person is fairly healthy both mentally and physically i don't think it really matters. what with a jet comes responsibility and wisdom. --age
the same situation in benedict was elected pontiff in 2005 after the death of pope john paul the second. >> many people are inside and went to bed last night and the pope was still there later in the wake up this morning and realize the clock is ticking on them. he only has a couple of weeks left on the job. joining me is sister maggie, you attend mass here. your thoughts? this is not happen in 600 years. you wake up this morning and you hear he is stepping down, where you thinking?...
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. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and muslims. . xvi is and will remain one of the greatest religious figures of our time. >> i cannot imagine this. a pope is elected to serve until the end of his life. it is a decision that will perhaps make room for younger generation to take office. >> for the most part, his move received strong support from the german capital. >> for more, we're joined now by our religious affairs correspondent. john, you have and our correspondent during the entire time of his role. did the news, as a surprise? >> not entirely, sabrina. 10 years ago, he said in public that he thought it was appropria
. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and...
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martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are several injuries in this case. the building is on lockdown. some people are still inside that building. we have a crew en route there. we'll bring you the latest information as soon as it becomes available. another day, another shooting story. the los angeles police department is offering a $1 million reward for information that would lead to the capture of a former police officer. christopher dorner accused of murdering three people in a rampage last week and included in those deaths is a police officer. here is video that shows dorner during this police training. we have not seen much of this
martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are...
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6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from fulfilling his ministry, we have learned that the late pope's the person in charge of his affairs. incredibly unusualnusual. right to dan lothian at the white house. did they have a close relationship. a typical relationship that you would have between a pope and world leader? >> i think it can be described as a respectful relationship, and the two have met, on one time face to face as far as we're aware, and back in 2009, overseas to agana and moscow, met face to face for 25 minutes, talked about billions of dollars in aid to developing countries and much of their discussion, food aid and discussion centere
6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from...
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there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gon
there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the...
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he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a great pope, and himself as small pope, which is also strange because he is obviously a great intellectual. but he knew he didn't have either the energy or, if you will, the pizazz of john paul ii, the media satisfy iy. but what he wad was very genuine. he is a month in love with god, and a very humble one. i noticed on the trip to the u.s., and you see the stadium filled, and john paul would enjoy those as much as an actor enjoys a big crowd, and benedict was a little bit almost embarrassed. but there was something beautiful and endear about that. >> there were missteps and miscues along th
he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a...
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paul and who was here with me in rome when we covered the death of john paul. and carl, it is good to see you. and i'm wondering just about your general reaction now, eight years later, when many people thought this would be a placeholder pope, what are your thoughts today? >> i think that it was worse than a placeholder pope. that the church fell into a kind of morass because of its internal problems and the failure to modernize its institutions, the conclave that elected benedict probably could have seen this coming, it didn't. but the truly revolutionary act of this papacy is the resignation of benedict while he's still somewhat able. it breaks tradition and it's an extraordinary and brave act that perhaps will enable the next conclave to think differently about the future of the church. and i started doing some thinking and going back and looking at modern history of the church last night. maybe, they're always talking, the cardinals, about hoe the holy spirit may move them. maybe it's time for a new vatican council, such as pope john xxiii called in the mi
paul and who was here with me in rome when we covered the death of john paul. and carl, it is good to see you. and i'm wondering just about your general reaction now, eight years later, when many people thought this would be a placeholder pope, what are your thoughts today? >> i think that it was worse than a placeholder pope. that the church fell into a kind of morass because of its internal problems and the failure to modernize its institutions, the conclave that elected benedict...
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the sex scandal came to light under pope john paul ii. they say now look for youth, a conservative vision and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone kind of just steps out of the pack -- by that i mean someone who speaks languages, knows the global world, it's a very difficult job description. >> reporter: but maybe not difficult for cardinal natural olay, a french canadian. >> there is a cardinal mark olay, who is now currently the head of the office of bishops in rome. so we could have a canadian. >> reporter: 119 cardinals will vote in the upcoming conclave to select the new pope, most of whom were appointed by pope benedict xvi and pope john paul. both, staunch conservatives, so expect a conservative voice to be chosen. something young catholics accept. >> i feel like moderate is probably fine. i'm a card-carrying liberal like for sure, but like -- >> but you don't think the church needs to go that direction? >> well, i don't know
the sex scandal came to light under pope john paul ii. they say now look for youth, a conservative vision and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone kind of just steps out of the pack -- by that i mean someone who speaks languages, knows the global world, it's a very difficult job description. >> reporter: but maybe not difficult for cardinal natural olay, a french canadian....
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a relative enigma compared to john paul ii, of course. an old fashioned man in modern times. and now the question for catholics and their church becomes what next. nbc's anne thompson is here with us, with part of that story. anne, good evening. >> good evening, brian. we're in such uncharted territory, that the vatican doesn't even know how pope benedict will be addressed after february 28th. when a pope dies, the conclave to elect his successor begins 15 days after his death. but now when it will start is just one of many mysteries in the wake of today's startling news. ♪ the cardinals, the men who will elect benedict's successor, were as surprised as the people in the pews. new york's cardinal timothy dolan on the "today" show. >> i'm as startled as the rest of you and anxious to find out exactly what's going on. >> reporter: and like the nation's cardinals, the faithful have many questions. >> maybe he's trying to do what's best for us as the church and he wants us to be led by, you know, a strong person who is of sound mind and body. >> reporter: some express the hope
a relative enigma compared to john paul ii, of course. an old fashioned man in modern times. and now the question for catholics and their church becomes what next. nbc's anne thompson is here with us, with part of that story. anne, good evening. >> good evening, brian. we're in such uncharted territory, that the vatican doesn't even know how pope benedict will be addressed after february 28th. when a pope dies, the conclave to elect his successor begins 15 days after his death. but now...
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and we know that pope john paul was very ill -- >> yes, he was. >> towards the end. so, why this unprecedent ed in modern times? >> we've known it's always been a possibility. they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably going to relish the transition. >> would you like to see an african? would you like to see a south american? >> yes. and i think those are very probable. to think that maybe, maybe the college of card nainals feel th holy spirit is directing them to choose from somewhere else, i think so. >> what are the odds of a north american? and you were asked, what about you? >> is this abc news or comedy central? you are -- >
and we know that pope john paul was very ill -- >> yes, he was. >> towards the end. so, why this unprecedent ed in modern times? >> we've known it's always been a possibility. they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering....
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john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are kneaded, many, many things, one of the first priorities of the cardinal he believes will be to find somebody who can give the new impetus to the church and strength and vigor and preaching president gospel of jesus with happiness and with conviction. and conviction not only of his own but being able to give conventioning reasons -- convincing reasons to the world no doubt the papacy is a different office or role than it was in the past because of communication. to have a pope who can communicate with that conviction to a world i believe is starving for real reas
john paul ii was the pope of de television and the traveling pope. pope benedict xvi has been called the pope of the internet. the pope of the rich in word. his teachings are so simple yet profound. i would encourage people just to read what he has written himself. he has a marvelous series on jesus of nazareth three books in a 3 part series. just very simple and yet very profound. what do congress look for? i asked that of cardinal dolan yesterday. his response was weatherman knee things are...
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paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of his life. benedict xvi, while i think certainly ahe certainly admiring john paul, thinks that's not the path that every pope takes. some of the difficulties the vatican faced in recent years. internal disarray relating to the leaked crisis. the damage imposed upon the public image of the church by the sex abuse scandals and so on, it's clear that that has taken a toll on benedict xvi, he has struggled with that personally and it may well be that the people who have seen the cumulative effect of that, that the church needs a new lease on life and a fresh
paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of...
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pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel. they're totally cut off from the outside world. all banned. once the election commence, they'll sleep and eat in the santa marta house in private rooms, each with a bathroom. about 70 people are awe loied in besides the cardinals. who can vote for the pope? usually those under the age of 80 at the time of the pope's death. so at this time benedict is still alive. will he be part of it or will his age keep him out? any catholic male, not married, is eligible. for more than 1,000 year, it's almost always been a cardinal. the ballots are secr
pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel....
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anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are pretty much all here, and they had a time to gather at his resignation, which was announced a couple weeks ago. they're not all here yet, and we understand that the first formal meeting of all the cardinals will happen on monday, and only then will they decide what date to actually establish the first day of the conclave, and at that point those cardinals who are eligible to vote will start their secret deliberations. we're not sure when. we're told somewhere potentially around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> christiane, i appreciate it. >>> he's been stripped of public duties after thousands of pages, th
anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are...
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nothing compared to the figures of the people we saw for the funeral of john paul back in 2005. that was a funeral and this is a different time in the church. the pope is driving through st. peter's square to wave to the faithful. he will have another meeting with cardinals in the morning. he will be speaking to his -- to the people that will select a successor. this is the last time that the pope will have such direct contact with the people. he is driving around among the crowd. a little earlier, the last speech that he will make in front of the people. many issues, he talked about truth. that is interesting when we consider all the things that have been coming out of the vatican and how many people suspect the pope is standing down because he is not strong enough to get a handle all the things happening within the vatican. let's speak to our resident vatican experts. you're listening to that speech about half an hour ago. what did you think were the most notable passages? >> it is importance -- it is important the weight of the papacy. >> there was one bed where he mentioned
nothing compared to the figures of the people we saw for the funeral of john paul back in 2005. that was a funeral and this is a different time in the church. the pope is driving through st. peter's square to wave to the faithful. he will have another meeting with cardinals in the morning. he will be speaking to his -- to the people that will select a successor. this is the last time that the pope will have such direct contact with the people. he is driving around among the crowd. a little...
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. >> i want the new pope to continue that and continue to use worked started by john paul ii. >> i would like a young girl pope coming under than the current one. i would like more forms to get women involved in the church. >> many here believe things have to change, especially to stop the solution catholics from turning their backs on the church. >> for more and are, john, we just heard about the fact that some german catholics are looking for more reform. how is that scene? >> it's a very german phenomenon actually. there is criticism and even hostility toward the catholic church in other countries and far less demands for theological reforms. in upper cook, it is a very on critical atmosphere. >> how likely is it that we will see a non-european? >> it is very suspect. they have not voted along geographic lines. if they had come and the latin americans would not have elected cardinal ratzinger seven years ago. >> western societies seem somewhat removed from the church. where is this going? >> it's a very old institution, isn't it? let me tell you is story. in the beginning of the fifth
. >> i want the new pope to continue that and continue to use worked started by john paul ii. >> i would like a young girl pope coming under than the current one. i would like more forms to get women involved in the church. >> many here believe things have to change, especially to stop the solution catholics from turning their backs on the church. >> for more and are, john, we just heard about the fact that some german catholics are looking for more reform. how is that...
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. >> i want the new pope to continue that and continue to use worked started by john paul ii. >> i would like a young girl pope coming under than the current one. i would like more forms to get women involved in the church. >> many here believe things have to change, especially to stop the solution catholics from turning their backs on the church. >> for more and are, john, we just heard about the fact that some german catholics are looking for more reform. how is that scene? >> it's a very german phenomenon actually. there is criticism and even hostility toward the catholic church in other countries and far less demands for theological reforms. in upper cook, it is a very on critical atmosphere. >> how likely is it that we will see a non-european? >> it is very suspect. they have not voted along geographic lines. if they had come and the latin americans would not have elected cardinal ratzinger seven years ago. >> western societies seem somewhat removed from the church. where is this going? >> it's a very old institution, isn't it? let me tell you is story. in the beginning of the fifth
. >> i want the new pope to continue that and continue to use worked started by john paul ii. >> i would like a young girl pope coming under than the current one. i would like more forms to get women involved in the church. >> many here believe things have to change, especially to stop the solution catholics from turning their backs on the church. >> for more and are, john, we just heard about the fact that some german catholics are looking for more reform. how is that...
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paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and the physical strength to continue the very very strenuous tootsies that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings has officials in the vatican has said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen before easter but really a very very surprising announcement today from pope it is tom thank you for that update and to be talking to our correspondent peter all of in germany about this extraordinary resignation. for now let's talk to director of the national secular society keith portis word thanks for joining us here on r.t. today now well the reputation of the catholic church has been marred as not by various scandals recently but where there are any positives from pope benedict sixteenth tenure do you think. well sadly not because there were two major issues as really been mentioned
paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and the physical strength to continue the very very strenuous tootsies that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings has officials in the vatican has said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will...
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pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but right now all of that timing is being worked out. suzanne. >> all right. deb, thank you. i appreciate it. >>> the former navy s.e.a.l. who reportedly fired the shot that killed osama bin laden is said to be furious with the u.s. military. he has no pension or medical insurance, and according to an investigative piece in esquire magazine called the man who shot and killed osama bin laden, the shooter who is not named, he told a friend, this is a quote here, he says if i get killed on this next deployment. i know my family will be taken care of. but if i come back and retire, i won't hav
pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but...
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i think we would be looking for vigorous and dynamic leadership, perhaps in the mold of john paul ii. >> archbishop of milan, the archbishop of vienna, gmt enoa, italy, two vatican cardinals in the mix, do you agree with the monsignor about the qualities of what needs to be considered as we look to who would take benedict's place? >> yes, i think the monsignor is absolutely -- as somebody who has studied this, the church has become quite diverse. while there's been a decline of things catholic in places like the united states, that is not the case in places like africa, latin, central america, central mexico. the activity has quite energized, so make a prediction that you'll see a greater voice of those communities, nigeria, brazil, mexico, because the catholic church and the conclave in particular has become more diversified over the years. don't forget john paul ii was the first known italian in 453 years, nobody ever believed that, so here we are 2013, and you might see a seismic change again. >> ray flynn, monsignor tom mcsweeny, thank you for joining me. i really appreciate it. >
i think we would be looking for vigorous and dynamic leadership, perhaps in the mold of john paul ii. >> archbishop of milan, the archbishop of vienna, gmt enoa, italy, two vatican cardinals in the mix, do you agree with the monsignor about the qualities of what needs to be considered as we look to who would take benedict's place? >> yes, i think the monsignor is absolutely -- as somebody who has studied this, the church has become quite diverse. while there's been a decline of...
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paul a stage. he filled it not quite as largely but filled it very adequately with the authority of his teachings, not by power. >> reporter: and when we say listen to him, the world listens to the pope, whether it is benedict, john paul or whoever the next one might be. >> well, as a matter of fact, that's true. succession is the word. one succeeded the other succeeded the other on the basis of what we believe. >> reporter: we talked about it a lot and i talked to cardinal dolan about it. cardinal mccarrick and certainly cardinal dolan plays down any talk of him being the next pope but the fact of an american being the pope does not look like it's in the cards now. >> that's been said for a long time. but to be very honest, i think that the fact that we have taken the lead on the abuse crisis may well be -- may be the joker. it may well be that someone looks to having done extraordinary work in that field. >> reporter: and we see also now the pope who has arrived, looks like to me at the helipad a
paul a stage. he filled it not quite as largely but filled it very adequately with the authority of his teachings, not by power. >> reporter: and when we say listen to him, the world listens to the pope, whether it is benedict, john paul or whoever the next one might be. >> well, as a matter of fact, that's true. succession is the word. one succeeded the other succeeded the other on the basis of what we believe. >> reporter: we talked about it a lot and i talked to cardinal...
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paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and physical strength to continue the very very strenuous duties that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings his officials in the vatican who said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen before easter but really a very very surprising announcement today from pope it is tom thank you for that update and so will be talking to our correspondent peter out of germany about this extraordinary resignation. well for now let's talk to director of the national secular society keith porteous word thanks for joining us here on r.t. today now well the reputation of the catholic church has been marred as not by various scandals recently but where there are any positives from pope benedict sixteenth tenure do you think. well sadly not because there were two major issues as really been mentio
paul the second died in two thousand and five he's gone through a very difficult time misspoke a lot of scandal surrounding the church and the announcement that came out today as he said it i no longer have the mental and physical strength to continue the very very strenuous duties that it can be for an old man. to represent the church in all its dealings his officials in the vatican who said they are now trying to find a new pope and to do that as quickly as possible they hope that will happen...
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john paul ii had more charisma. >> contra races were coming up -- controversy was coming up. i think he handled them with wisdom. >> the wise are normally the old people. >> time now to return our attention to some other international news. supporters are calling it a revolution, but critics are lashing out at the new eu agreement to cap bonuses. it is aimed at a re-piece of the financial crisis. >> those in favor say it will address public anger about the role played by the banks and the economic meltdown. those against it, notably britain's -- britons, say that it will drive talent out of europe. >> the talks took more than 10 months. negotiators managed to clinch the deal despite opposition from the uk. at present, bankers can receive bonuses of as much as 20 times their basic salary. under the new rules, which can come into effect next year, they could be -- capped at one year's salary. >> most important thing is that banks will be stabilized, that a are better able to withstand the crisis -- that they are better able to withstand the crisis. >> it shows we are implementi
john paul ii had more charisma. >> contra races were coming up -- controversy was coming up. i think he handled them with wisdom. >> the wise are normally the old people. >> time now to return our attention to some other international news. supporters are calling it a revolution, but critics are lashing out at the new eu agreement to cap bonuses. it is aimed at a re-piece of the financial crisis. >> those in favor say it will address public anger about the role played by...
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. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for that. his papacy will be remembered for its scandals. those endless sexual abuse coverups that cost more than $3 billion to settle. a string of financial scandals. benedict tried and failed to clean up corruption. and the notorious vatileaks scandal, with daily exposes in italian newspapers, a vatican back-stabbing in intrigue. he may have been the first pope to tweet, but as the leader, he tried to hold back the forces of modernity, refusing to expand the role of women. now, though, he is accepting the reality of the modern world. and the catholic church enters
. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's...
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate it. john garvey, president of catholic university joining us on the phone. we'll talk to you in the days ahead. >> thank you, tony and allison. >> pope benedict xvi has announced this morning he will be stepping down. he will resign his position affective february 28th. >> all right. we of course will be following that throughout the morning. big breaking news there. >>> in the meantime, have we forgotten the big story to the north? >> i have a relative up in boston. she hasn't had power since friday. 30 inches of snow on the ground. >> that's the
john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate...
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thanks in part to his energetic predecessor john paul ii. >> he said, i do not know of i am up to this but i will give it my best shot and he has done well for almost eight years. >> many feel the next pope got to be more charismatic and stronger. >> that a man in the full possession of his physical powers is going to be there. >> the college of cardinals will fill the responsibility. >> i do not know what else to do. i will wait instructions like everyone else. >> he steps down february 28. after that the cardinals will elect a new pope who will face something new. the living former public looking over his shoulder. >> are you hearing any prospects for who is likely to replace him? >> there is a short list. i will take off three names. two west african cardinals. and the canadian mark walette. acardinal ratzinger is pope benedict xvi. he was on the short list. if you look at the current short list, remember this. looking at the west africans and the canadian. there has not been a non- european pulp in -- including cardinal ratzinger. there has not been a non- europeans since the middl
thanks in part to his energetic predecessor john paul ii. >> he said, i do not know of i am up to this but i will give it my best shot and he has done well for almost eight years. >> many feel the next pope got to be more charismatic and stronger. >> that a man in the full possession of his physical powers is going to be there. >> the college of cardinals will fill the responsibility. >> i do not know what else to do. i will wait instructions like everyone else....
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this job before he became pope he was essentially regarded as the john paul of seconds papal bulldog he was the defender of the doctrine of fair for faith and not role he is accused of covering up sexual abuse scandals all around the world but also here in germany in fact in recent times there's been further controversy over this as the church here in germany canceled an investigation into child abuses that ranged back to the 1940's and stop that investigation apparently according to the man who was conducting it because they weren't happy with what would be made public so there's certainly been controversy and it will be something that's picked over for a long time to come after benedict steps down at the end of this month where for more on the pope's unexpected resignation let's talk to anti abuse campaign up barbara doris she joins me live now from the u.s. barbara did pope benedict the sixteenth managed to restore the image of the catholic church in light of the geishas and other scandals. no we don't believe he did we believe that he uttered words he said they were still through
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andrew koppelman is the john paul stevens professor of law at northwestern university. he received his bachelor's from the university of chicago and his jd and phd from yale law school. his scholarship focuses on issues at the intersection of law and political philosophy. he is the author of "defending american religious neutrality," and several other books. and more than 80 articles and scholarly journals. sherif girgis is a phd student in philosophy at princeton university and a jd candidate at yale law school. after graduating from princeton , where he won prizes for best senior thesis in ethics and philosophy, as well as the dante society prize, he obtained a degree from the university of oxford as a rhodes scholar. he is the author of a recent book "what is marriage," described as the most formidable defense of traditional marriage ever written. we are grateful to him for participating in this event. >> thank you so much for the introduction. thanks, everyone, for coming. a special thankso professor koppelman. i have a pleasure of speaking on the panel with him bef
andrew koppelman is the john paul stevens professor of law at northwestern university. he received his bachelor's from the university of chicago and his jd and phd from yale law school. his scholarship focuses on issues at the intersection of law and political philosophy. he is the author of "defending american religious neutrality," and several other books. and more than 80 articles and scholarly journals. sherif girgis is a phd student in philosophy at princeton university and a jd...
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many items still feature pope john paul ii. the vatican expects a big demand for memorabilia of the new pope once he's announced. the election of the new pope is also expected to bring an economic boom to rome. 4million pilgrims came for the last conclave in 2005. the city of rome is getting ready for the same number this time. >> the vatican acknowledged also today for the first time that pope been didn't hit his head in a hotel room during -- benedict hit his head in a hotel room during a trip to mexico last year, but the church said that accident has nothing to do with the decision to retire. >>> a california couple talking about their encounter with the l.a. cop killer christopher dorner. dorner broke into their resort home on bear lake and surprised them from upstairs before tying them up. although they were aware of dorner's trail of violence, the reynoldss say they couldn't help but feel some compassion for the guy. >> he talked to us, trying to calm us down and saying very frequently he would not kill us, yes. >> he sai
many items still feature pope john paul ii. the vatican expects a big demand for memorabilia of the new pope once he's announced. the election of the new pope is also expected to bring an economic boom to rome. 4million pilgrims came for the last conclave in 2005. the city of rome is getting ready for the same number this time. >> the vatican acknowledged also today for the first time that pope been didn't hit his head in a hotel room during -- benedict hit his head in a hotel room during...
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this job before he became pope he was essentially regarded as the john paul of seconds papal bulldog he was the defender of the doctrine of fair for faith and not role he is accused of covering up sexual abuse scandals all around the world but also here in germany in fact in recent times there's been further controversy over this as the church here in germany canceled an investigation into child abuses that ranged back to the nineteen forty since stopped that investigation apparently according to the man who was conducting it because they weren't happy with what would be made public so there's certainly been controversy and it will be something that's picked over for a long time to come after benedict steps down at the end of this month. the director of the national secular society keith pushes wood says there's more to the official explanation of the pope's resignation. i think the dark triangle side has been an absolute catastrophe for the church it's actually lost. its authority in many parts of the world when you say that you're going to. oppose politicians trying to bring in say
this job before he became pope he was essentially regarded as the john paul of seconds papal bulldog he was the defender of the doctrine of fair for faith and not role he is accused of covering up sexual abuse scandals all around the world but also here in germany in fact in recent times there's been further controversy over this as the church here in germany canceled an investigation into child abuses that ranged back to the nineteen forty since stopped that investigation apparently according...
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this job before he became pope he was essentially regarded as the john paul the seconds papal bull dog he was the defender of the doctrine of fair for faith and not role he is accused of covering up sexual abuse scandals all around the world but also here in germany in fact in recent times there's been further controversy over this as the church here in germany canceled an investigation into child abuses that range but the 1940's and stop that investigation apparently according to the man who was conducting it because they weren't happy with what would be made public so there's certainly been controversy and it will be something that's picked over for a long time to come after benedict steps down at the end of this month. the director of the national secular society keith pushes wood says there's more to the official explanation of the pope's resignation i think doc trying to side has been an absolute catastrophe for the church it's actually lost. its authority in many parts of the world when you say that you're caring to. oppose politicians trying to bring in say same sex marriage law
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paul ii. >> reporter: in the murky world of vatican politics no clear front-winner to replace benedict has emerged. a church which has come to see its future more and more in the developing world will have to decide whether its next leader should be from there. cardinal peter turkson of ghana is a campaigner for social reform and is often cited as the leading african candidate. but the 64-year-old has already stumbled on the issue of the church's relations with islam and is seen as a risky choice. the highest profile potential candidate from latin america may be the 63-year-old archbishop of sao paolo brazil cardinal odilio pedro scherer but the church has yet to demonstrate it's ready for a south american pope and he's thought to be a long shot. there are long odds as well for cardinal timothy dolan archbishop of new york. but any american candidate would have to overcome the church's traditional reluctance to elect a superpower pope. if the church reverts to an italian, cardinal anglo scola 71-year-old archbishop of milan is a popular figure, but the choice will likely have to do mor
paul ii. >> reporter: in the murky world of vatican politics no clear front-winner to replace benedict has emerged. a church which has come to see its future more and more in the developing world will have to decide whether its next leader should be from there. cardinal peter turkson of ghana is a campaigner for social reform and is often cited as the leading african candidate. but the 64-year-old has already stumbled on the issue of the church's relations with islam and is seen as a...
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that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009 at the time a spokesman said the pope was very impressed with the president and for his part the president said he looked forward to a very strong relationship between the united states and the vatican. today, the president said in part, quote: the church plays a critical role in the united states and the world and i wish the best of those who will soon gather to choose his holiness pope benedict the xvith successor. house speaker john boehner said the prayers and gratitude of american catholics are with pope benedict xvi today. our team fox coverage continues. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt
that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009...
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paul ii. >> reporter: there are several candidates but none considered a front-runner. cbs news, vatican city. >>> there's a $1 million bounty on the head of christopher dorner, the fugitive ex-cop charged with murdering a california policeman. dorner accused in a deadly revenge vendetta against other officers is a target of a massive search. the search has been focused on the mountains about 80 miles east of los angeles. court papers reveal authorities now believe dorner may have fled to mexico and may have had help doing so. >>> two reputed chicago gang members have been charged in the shooting death of hadiya pan pendleton who died days after the inauguration. 18-year-old michael ward and 20-year-old kenneth williams said pendleton was not the intended target. they thought they were firing on a rival gang. pendleton's parents will attend the state of the union address tonight. >>> coming up in the morning news, stranded ship. thousands of passengers on a carnival cruise face deteriorating conditions after their ship becomes disabled. this is the "cbs morning news." m
paul ii. >> reporter: there are several candidates but none considered a front-runner. cbs news, vatican city. >>> there's a $1 million bounty on the head of christopher dorner, the fugitive ex-cop charged with murdering a california policeman. dorner accused in a deadly revenge vendetta against other officers is a target of a massive search. the search has been focused on the mountains about 80 miles east of los angeles. court papers reveal authorities now believe dorner may...
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under rules established by pope john paul, only cardinals under the age of 80. will the retiring benedict be able to vote? he's 85. who can be elected pope? any catholic male who's not married is eligible. for more than 1,000 years it's almost always been a cardinal. the ballot is secret. a write-in vote. initially two-thirds majority required. the cardinals are required to carry their ballots to the altar of the sistine chapel. the results are announced by smoke signals. in the old days ballots were burnt with wet straw to produce black smoke. if there's a pope, white smoke. the white smoke accompanied by bells. and soon, a verbal announce nmt latin, we have a pope. one of the more interesting bit of trivia is that they'll have on hand three different casts for the newly elected pope. small, medium, large. the first glimmer of who that next pope will be, we'll see when he steps out on to that balcony. george? >> we're joined on the phone by cardinal wuehrl, thank you for joining us. your first thoughts upon hearing this news. >> it was an enormous surprise. whe
under rules established by pope john paul, only cardinals under the age of 80. will the retiring benedict be able to vote? he's 85. who can be elected pope? any catholic male who's not married is eligible. for more than 1,000 years it's almost always been a cardinal. the ballot is secret. a write-in vote. initially two-thirds majority required. the cardinals are required to carry their ballots to the altar of the sistine chapel. the results are announced by smoke signals. in the old days...
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pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all being sinners or is this just typical? >> what did he say about the problem of priestly sexual abuse before he became pope? he said we got to get rid of the filth. that was the word he used. these priests who would dare molest anybody. so he was an outspoken man. he knows we're all sinners. the pope himself goes to confession. he understands that. but he also understands most priests are good men and to have their name and their hair damage be smernlged -- >> i can't imagine the person who listens to the pope's confession. what a remarkable thing. bill, thank you for taking the time
pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all...